Comments on: What does a real lesbian look like? Apparently not like me /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809 Setting Australia’s LGBTI agenda since 1979 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 08:44:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Ruxxy /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809/comment-page-2#comment-308555 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 08:44:31 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-308555 As an old poof I can spot a dyke at fifty, nay, a hundred paces (especially since I’ve had my cataracts done). I could do this before they even got tatts and the piercings. It wasn’t even the ultra short haircuts, denim and no makeup that was the giveaway – I guess it just means my gaydar has been working pretty well. As for the lipstick ones – they are easy to spot too…they are the ones who look a bit different to the butch ones but they mix with them just the same.

Isn’t it great, nowadays? We can all look as individual as we like – its just a pity that there are so many of us great chunks of us (gals and guys) can tend to look a lot like each other – and don’t get me started on vego’s and vegans!

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By: Bitsy /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809/comment-page-2#comment-308431 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 02:36:16 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-308431 Attire phobia is still alive and well, unfortunately. I’m so sick and tired of being told I don’t look “lesbian” by other lesbians. Sometimes I wonder if our own worst enemies aren’t ourselves.

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By: M'kali-Hashiki /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809/comment-page-2#comment-263195 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:47:51 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-263195 I’m a Femme. Yes sometimes clueless straight people are surprised that I’m a dyke. But I certainly don’t denigrate Butches by calling the term “deplorable” in response. Sounds like the author has some unexamined internalized homophobia.

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By: Rope /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809/comment-page-2#comment-262772 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:40:36 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-262772 Deplorable label? Butch and proud here.

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By: evie shoemaker /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-262414 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:11:26 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-262414 Once people find out about me they always say I never would have guessed or you don’t look gay. It is really annoying. I am not hiding my sexuality in fact most people know about it now. I just like wearing makeup, dresses and doing my hair. There is nothing wrong with that. I also want that type of girl in my life again nothing wrong with that. I do not want to have a man in my life or a woman that personifies a man. I’m not degrading those that do that is their choice but I understand this article. If you are a girly girl you tend to have people question your sexuality when you come out to them.

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By: Justine Bedser /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-262240 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 05:12:21 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-262240 In reply to Tina Cullen.

I completely agree with this! It’s so misinterpreted and moulded into boxes that people think they need to fit which is unfortunate!

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By: Lynne Hudson /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-262193 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 03:38:02 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-262193 Great article.

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By: Tina Cullen /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-262076 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 22:25:23 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-262076 Justine Bedser this is what we were discussing!

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By: Ebon J /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261742 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:23:03 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261742 In reply to Emma Waye.

Agreed!

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By: Ebon J /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261736 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:09:54 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261736 This is just your opinion based on the world that you live in. Butch is not a “deplorable label” it’s how I feel within and I have felt this way since I was a child. Butch is only a word to describe how I present my gender identity and the things that I associate with the world around me, which happen to be male identified. This article about “attire-phobia” is written by someone that is also attire-phobic. I mean seriously don’t we have enough phobias without someone making a new one up every day? Oh and yes, I love femmes.

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By: Kathleen Healy /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261667 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:53:45 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261667 I don’t think it was calling our beautiful butches deplorable but rather that our society feels the need to further compartmentalise us based on appearance.

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By: Lily Rose /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261668 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:46:54 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261668 In reply to Lily Rose.

So, not like the way the author discredited butch women by calling their identity deplorable?

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By: Nikki Jordan /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261323 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 01:29:15 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261323 What does a straight person look like? Who cares? We are just people.

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By: Emma Waye /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261322 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 01:19:34 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261322 You know the wonderful thing about people learning about binary and non-conformity is that some people get this deluded thought process that, to use an identifier which apparently polarises is some kind of wrong.
Which in itself is fucking hilarious.

So someone identifies as Butch, Stone, Femme, Lipstick, Chapstick? Why does it even fucking matter when it’s how THEY identify, and it sure as hell isn’t something to discredit a female loving females.

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By: Emma Waye /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261324 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 01:15:38 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261324 In reply to Lily Rose.

Lily, some lesbians still use it as their identifier. No need to discredit any identifiers by using such a sweeping generalisation as: “we call ourselves femme”. :/

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By: Sophie /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261271 Tue, 14 Oct 2014 00:43:15 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261271 I do get that a lot of people find comfort in the butch/femme labels but I sort of agree with this article in how it points out that the labels are really problematic, but I suppose that’s because straight people have misunderstood the queer lady community and turned the labels into something problematic. Still you always hear about how butches can’t get jobs, are abused/assaulted, etc but you never hear about the other side of the coin (even though statistically feminine people are more likely to experience these things?) So I dunno, I find it refreshing to hear about the other side for a change.

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By: Natalie Mermaid /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261222 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:17:21 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261222 Being butch isn’t “deplorable.” Neither is being any other gender identity. It’s totally great there are lesbians out there who don’t express or own or identify with any measure of gender-nonconformity, but while your goals for the community may feel liberating to you, they feel oppressive to me. In fact, I avoid much of “lesbian community” for the seeming de facto anti-butch and anti-femme stance many have. And btw butch and femme aren’t sexual positions. They are gender identities. The existence of butches or “lipstick lesbians” in no way negates people who are neither. There is room for all of us. You don’t have to diminish one segment of the community to embrace the segment you fit into.

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By: Sharon Harnett /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261104 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:01:12 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261104 In reply to Anastasia Beaverhausen.

Props for reference to Will & Grace ;-)

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By: Lily Rose /opinion/soapbox-opinion/what-does-a-real-lesbian-look-like-apparently-not-like-me/128809#comment-261105 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 20:39:10 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=128809#comment-261105 In reply to Lily Rose.

I think you’ve missed the most important point in all the comments – calling butch deplorable. Also, lipstick lesbian is a term coined by 90’s media, we call ourselves femme.

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