Miriam Margolyes, “Almost Australian”
鈥�I don鈥檛 define me, I just shove a lot of adjectives in, and every adjective is true and of equal weight. So I would say I鈥檓 a fat, old, Jewish lesbian, social climbing, pseudo intellectual.鈥�
It was 9am in London when I spoke to Miriam Margolyes,听an icon of film and stage with an illustrious career that has spanned decades. With London, like many other cities around the world, currently in lockdown, the interview started with Miriam speaking candidly about how COVID-19 has impacted on her.
鈥淚t鈥檚 not a walk in the park, there are good days and bad days, I鈥檓 an extrovert and I miss hugging and talking to people and going out to eat with friends.
鈥淏ecause I am one of the vulnerable ones, I鈥檓 afraid of the virus, I鈥檓 afraid to go out, I鈥檓 afraid to have people come to my house.
鈥淚 love, on the other hand the fact that there are many fewer planes in the sky.鈥� Miriam chuckles. “Because I鈥檓 on a flight path and they go over my house, when they are not there, I love it.
鈥淏ut if you can sit in the sun and read a book and talk to your friends on the phone, it鈥檚 not the end of the world.鈥�
Because Miriam has worked within the performing arts聽for so many years, I was keen to ask how she thought the impacts of COVID-19 would play out for us.
鈥淭heatre and art have always responded to what happens in the world, that鈥檚 what we do, we observe and act on our observations.
鈥淚 think our industry is the one that is honestly the worst hit, and will take the longest time to recover, people will be afraid to go to the theatre or the cinema, and I don鈥檛 think they will allow them to re-open for a very long tim e- I鈥檓 quite pessimistic about that.
鈥淚 know people are streaming stuff that you can watch, but there is nothing like theatre, that joyous interaction of a live audience with a stage, its magical.鈥�
As outspoken as she is kind and considerate, her most recent documentary series Almost Australian recently premiered on ABC and iView. In the series Miriam embarks on a journey across the country, taking an at times hard look at contemporary Australian culture.
鈥淚 asked my producers to take me to the Australia that I didn鈥檛 know, and that鈥檚 exactly what I got.
鈥淚t was very challenging and exhausting from a physical point of view but it was also very revealing and fascinating, I learnt a lot of things about Australia that I didn鈥檛 know already.
鈥淚 came in with certainly a preconception that things are not right in Australia, about First Nations People, and I still believe that. The amount of control, the lack of freedom and the lack of respect is there.
鈥淚t鈥檚 the subject that most Australians do not want to face, and they will certainly criticise me for tackling something that Australians might feel is none of my business. But I have to tell it like I see it, I saw control and unfriendliness from whites to blacks, and I don鈥檛 like it.鈥�
Reflecting on the journey, Miriam remembers one night with particular fondness, as she tells me.
鈥淚 will never forget looking at the stars at Seven Emus Station in the Northern Territory, it was not easy that night, but when we came out and made a fire and looked up at the stars, I could see the milky way and all the stars and the heavens.
鈥淚鈥檇 never seen that before, I鈥檝e always been in a city, where you never see the sky without the glow of electricity.
鈥淎ustralia does give you a sense of its immensity and the age of it.鈥�
Along the way, Miriam discovered that Alice Springs is the lesbian capital of the world, before traveling to Darwin where, by chance she met a group of Sister-Girls from the Tiwi Islands
鈥淚t was the most extraordinary experience for me, I was trundling along on my scooter, and blow me, there was this little group of people and I didn鈥檛 know if they’re Arthur or Martha because it鈥檚 not on my mind, I鈥檓 a gay women and that鈥檚 just a fact, but it isn鈥檛 one of the most interesting things about me, far from.
鈥淚 enjoyed meeting them, I had a good laugh, I think Krystal and the girls are just delicious.
鈥淥ne of the things I take quite seriously is that people allow me into their lives to film, and it鈥檚 a huge piece of trust and I can鈥檛 just waltz in and waltz out, so I鈥檓 in contact with many of the people I met, and I hope that I will see many of them again.鈥�
The series is a breathtaking, honest and an at times unflinching look at Australian society and makes for great iso-viewing, however Miriam鈥檚 outspoken nature has again drawn criticism from some. She concludes the interview by addressing her haters.
鈥淚鈥檇 just like to make mention of how I鈥檓 dealing with some of the horrible remarks I have gotten because of the documentary. Because I鈥檝e received a few pearlers I have.
鈥淚 think that the appropriate way to deal with them is to read them, absorb them and ignore them.
鈥淚t鈥檚 just extraordinary to me that people feel the need to write to tell you they think that you鈥檙e a piece of shit
鈥淲hy can鈥檛 they just have their opinions? I don鈥檛 see the world like they do, and there it is.鈥�
