Comments on: Where to now for Mardi Gras? /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101 Setting Australia’s LGBTI agenda since 1979 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:03:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: ding345 /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-92600 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:03:30 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-92600 t neamed The Sydney Gay and lesbian Mardi Gras has purpose. Drop Gay and Lesbian is meaningless.
As we all know, “For 20-plus years we have been able to force the mainstream media to call it the GAY AND LESBIAN MARDI GRAS”. It is by a few gernarations Struggle and sttill now. Dropping G/L is Unrespectable,\
“Mardi Gras is now inviting everyone who has a positive message to share about the power and beauty of diversity to be part of our celebration”. “We would love to see people who share our values, but who never thought they would be in the Parade to approach us and share their ideas. There will always be room for a great float which will both entertain and bring people together.” It still dreaming. It is Self-humiliation.
“Our hope with this change is to turn Sydney Mardi Gras into an even bigger civic event – right up there with Rio and the world’s other great carnivals – to be enjoyed by everyone, butMardi Gras goes always remembered as being a gift to the city from its gay & lesbian community and a demonstration of our pride.” It is Lack of considerate.
“Sydney Morning Herald front page sums it up: Mardi Gras goes straight.” “many, particularly younger people are much less likely to want to be labeled.” It isnt a quesation “TO BE OR NOT TO BE”. It as soon as you be named it wont be never change it. That “Sydney Mardi Gras we wont labeled”. LOL It is Self-deception,
Unfurturenaityly, as we are noticed that Oxford Street is no longer the Gay Golden Mile. And as in other matters, Gay and Lesbian and our community. it is Pitiful.

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By: AngelTracie /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-87377 Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:33:59 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-87377 As the mother of a gender diverse son I would prefer that Mardi Gras be inclusive of all. Mardi Gras has always being about celebrating this and yes is personal for me to be able to comment. Mardi Gras has been huge over the years and would benefit from movin g with the times and being more inclusive to all.

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By: kevin hardwick /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-87314 Sun, 20 Nov 2011 06:35:54 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-87314 De-gaying Mardi Gras ? total nonsense. As an elder I feel insulted.

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By: DavidW /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-87280 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:42:28 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-87280 sorry- “does not get redressed”

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By: DavidW /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-87278 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:39:14 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-87278 “until we are all afforded equality before the law that the words gay and lesbian are vital to ensure ongoing visibility”
I personally am extremely interested in gaining full equal civil marriage rights… but I also feel that once we achieve full equaltiy, we STILL need to celebrate our gay & lesbian CULTURE. Just like Chinese Australians welcome all to ChinaTown, we welcome everyone to the 33yr Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras. Many online fights have now erupted between gay & trans ppl- but just because trans ppl have been excluded from naming rights all this time goes not get redressed by also deleting gays & lesbians from visibilty! There are approx 2.2million gays & lesbians, and approx 2thousand transexuals in Australia (depending on which medical authority percentages you use). That’s alot of invisibilty for 2.2millions gays & lesbians. When you consider there are 350thousand Muslims in Australia, to delete all reference to our name & culture is a backwards step on a sheer numbers game. Like I said- even when we gain FULL equal rights, I expect to still celebrate and showcase our gay and lesbian CULTURE…. and by name. The only other option I’d be comfortable with would be to call it the Queer Mardi Gras, or Queer Pride (used to be Gay Pride), but any change should be after exhaustive consultation, which has not happened in this current case. The other thing is that we are under full scale attack in Sydney, in 2011, from politically powerful Christian Extremist groups hell bent on deleting the word gay from the public sphere, and deleting any gay-ness out of Mardi Gras or ban Mardi Gras altogether. This could not be a worse time to give in to them. Internationally the gay & lesbian title in Mardi Gras is the point of difference that has made it an international beacon & drawcard. More international travellers come here that to just any other random “Festival” like in Melbourne or other cities across the globe. Other cities/countries have “pride”, but we have the huge Gay & Lesbian MECCA parade! Having those words in it has turned our parade into something huge & a beacon from people to travel on 20hr flights to come & make it even bigger. Dropping the succesful identifying trait could drop the event in size, and delete that internationally recognised beacon of gay/lesbian visibility.

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By: Kyle /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-87273 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:35:45 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-87273 In the last few years I can’t tell you how many people told me Mardi Gras is no longer relevant. Now listen to those same people complaining about the changes. What a shame they do not invest the same energy to support the parade and festival by attending and being a Mardi Gras member.

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By: Jenny mann /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-87239 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:23:30 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-87239 I believe that the next step that the organisation should take is to call an EGM ASAP to have a full and frank discussion regarding the boards decision to remove the words ‘gay and ‘lesbian’ from the festival

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By: Alex /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-87235 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:51:44 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-87235 To say it is more inclusive is a total nonsense. Perhaps we need to drop the word Sydney, so as people in small towns like Dubbo or Melbourne won’t feel excluded.

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By: Darren /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-87197 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:41:14 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-87197 I think the logo is great. The message behind it is inspiring. I think the hysteria over gay and lesbian being taken out of the name is really overdone. London Pride, Madrid Pride, etc. Those events are clearly gay without having to spell it out. Does anyone honestly believe Mardi Gras will be thought of as anything other than a VERY gay event for decades to come. I mean get real people. What the new name does which I like is it invites all the others who’re not quite gay, not quite lesbian, or just great supporters to get involved to make Mardi Gras better – and it needs to get better or else it won’t survive.

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By: Mardi Gras’ circle of love | Star Online /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-87190 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:57:42 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-87190 […] OPINION: Where to now for Mardi Gras? […]

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By: Mark /opinion/soapbox-opinion/where-to-now-for-mardi-gras/66101#comment-87189 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:54:52 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=66101#comment-87189 Interesting question…with poor leading answers,

So could you not put words into our mouths and just have

Should “gay and lesbian” be removed from the logo
Yes
No
I dont care

As its you have already written there is many opinions on this topic so why did you just chose those two? I mean come on you’re not working for MG are you? As I’m sure no SSO jerno would put his or her own opinion into a article about a debate…I know other people raised this yesterday in social media….

Also good to see you point out abut the other cock ups MG have done…they seem to like to just go and do something that flies in the face of sensibility!

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