Comments on: Dirty pills beg for legalisation /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967 Setting Australia’s LGBTI agenda since 1979 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:51:16 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Terry Wright /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-12266 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:51:16 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-12266 christian-hypocrite, you need to read this.

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By: shayne chester /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11995 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:16:25 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11995 lolz…nurse! bring the medication trolley!

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By: christian-hypocrite /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11988 Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:55:02 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11988 . . . .na dont worry about it just throw em drugs into you . . . who cares if u die or get permanent major organ damage that will ruin your life . If u fukd up enuf to do drugs then just go and drop dead !

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By: Andrew M. Potts /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11962 Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:04:08 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11962 It is true that it is near impossible to die from LSD poisoning Jordan, but this is because the drug is so powerful that a person would die from sheer terror (from shock or heart attack) before they ever approached a toxic dose.

LSD may also be a problematic drug for people who’ve suffered traumas or have low self esteem, as their fears and doubts may manifest themselves through their hallucinations. It was for this reason that the drug proved useful in a clinical setting for the treatment of neurosis- but without a doctor present, that can often be a dangerous outcome.

Personally, I think LSD should be legal, but probably come highly rationed and definitely with a sh*tload of warning labels. If people really want to have vivid hallucinations I think salvia divinorum is a better drug for the simple reason that the hallucinations come and go in a matter of minutes, as opposed to the 8 hour trip that is LSD- and once you’re on that bus, there’s no getting off till the end.

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By: Jordan /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11954 Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:28:11 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11954 Since when is LSD more dangerous than MDMA?

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By: Jonny Bastin (Sydney Democrats) /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11943 Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:38:13 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11943 Andrew – the last sentence of your article suggests SA Democrat MP Sandra Kanck was hounded out of office because of her (sensible) stance on drug reform.

This is not true.

Yes Sandra Kanck was ridiculed by the press for her stance on this issue – but her decision to recently retire was primarily based on her desire to hand over to new Democrat MP David Winderlich… to give him enough time to establish himself in the seat so that the Democrats could retain it at the next SA election.

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By: Paul /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11879 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:54:51 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11879 Very refreshing to read. Spot on.

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By: shayne chester /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11868 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:19:08 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11868 The point, Terry, is that hundreds of queens will be buying drugs for this weekend, that’s never going to change. And when they read that ‘ecstasy in Australia is being laced with crude adulterants including glass, rat poison, etc’ they’re going to be thinking, “ZOMG, I better buy some alternative, like ice or ghb.” Which is why I suggest they check/test the E they’re buying and understand that the alternatives are MUCH more dangerous.

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By: Terry Wright /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11862 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:02:33 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11862 Yes, Shayne, common sense.

The facts are facts regardless of your views. Ecstasy in it’s pure form, MDMA in moderation is relatively harmless. Apart from over hydration, the main cause of harm are the added contaminates. They only exist because of prohibition and the lack of “honesty and accuracy about the recreational drugs they are using”.

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By: Andrew M. Potts /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11861 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:57:15 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11861 True Shayne, however it’s known annecdotally when there’s a good batch going around, local syndicates will sometimes brand their pills to look similar to capitalise on the rep and without professional manufacturing standards there will always be differences in strength within any batch.

If people are going to use Ecstasy its probably better for them to take a half pill first and leave it for an hour so that they can judge the strength before taking any more- particularly if they’re buying from a stranger in a club type environment.

If they start to experience non-typical symptoms such as drowsiness or hallucination, then that’s an indication that they may have been sold a substitute drug- and if it’s PMA or similar it could be quite dangerous to consume any more.

Never hesitate to seek medical assistance if you (or a friend) begin to feel unwell.

Under normal circumstances (and when it is actual MDMA that’s being consumed) the biggest issues to keep in mind are that MDMA effects the body’s ability to rid itself of excess fluids and raises body temperature, so don’t drink excessively, don’t over exert yourself, keep out of the heat and be very careful about mixing it with other drugs.

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By: shayne chester /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11858 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:04:45 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11858 “Common sense “? Are you being ironic, Terry Wright ? Ecstasy was considered by that body of experts as less dangerous than 1. Heroin 2. Cocaine 3. Barbiturates 4. Street methadone 5. Alcohol 6. Ketamine 7. Benzodiazepines 8. Amphetamine 9. Tobacco 10. Buprenorphine 11. Cannabis 12. Solvents 13. 4-MTA 14. LSD 15. Methylphenidate 16. Anabolic steroids and 17. GHB.

There was no mention of how dangerous hyperbolae might be.

Cigarette smoke contains about 4000 chemical agents, including over 60 carcinogens like arsenic, benzene, formaldehyde, cadmium, polonium, chromium, tar etc.

Crystal meth is made from red phosphorous, ammonia, paint thinner, ether, Drano and the lithium from batteries, iodine crystals, propane and lye, muriatic acid, etc…it has become a dependency issue for 2 out of three regular users and a third of them experience psychotic episodes.

Ecstasy? Meh. Just like the HIV/AIDS education in this town, what the community really needs is a little honesty and accuracy about the recreational drugs they are using.

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By: Terry Wright /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11855 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:49:10 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11855 Well written Andrew, I could not have said it better myself.

A recent article in The Lancet medical journal ranked ecstasy at number 18 out of 20 of harmful substances, based on the actual risks posed to society. The research was by psychiatrists specialising in addiction and legal or police officials with scientific or medical expertise.

The media and political hysteria about ecstasy is disgraceful considering we live in the 21st century. As we know, the main reason for harm from ecstasy is prohibition itself allowing pills to be cut with non MDMA ingredients.

It’s also refreshing that you give some perspective to the frequency of use. Much of the public just see “DRUGS” and think of shooting up 2-3 times a day in a frenzy of addiction. The reality is, ecstasy use is mostly for special occasions or weekends.

We need more common sense media articles like this.

Well done.

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By: shayne chester /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11837 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:49:53 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11837 Bluelight, Pillreports, EcstasyData etc. are cosponsored by groups like Erowid, (who manage the ongoing pill testing programmes,) the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies and DanceSafe which also provide their pill testing results to seed the database. They publish on a number of sites, some include local content, some are also reliant on user input, they’ve been around since 2001 and are probably better options than scaring users into taking more harmful drugs by speculating about what might be in their pills.

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By: Andrew M. Potts /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11832 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:45:55 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11832 Thanks for the link Shayne, now if only it wasn’t up to users to be the guinea pigs…

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By: shayne chester /opinion/soapbox-opinion/dirty-pills-beg-for-legalisation/4967#comment-11831 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:45:20 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=4967#comment-11831 Ecky users can check what they are buying/taking here:

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