Comments on: Labor shouldn’t adopt a binding vote in favour of gay marriage /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860 Setting Australia’s LGBTI agenda since 1979 Thu, 07 May 2015 04:02:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Paul of Forbes NSW /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-400728 Thu, 07 May 2015 04:02:44 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-400728 In reply to David.

Australia will have marriage equality in 2025!

My party called the Australian Sex Party just got de-registered by the AEC (Australian Electoral Commission), because apparently the Australian Sex Party did not have a minimum of 500 members!

[May 2015 Marriage Equality Within Policy Political Party Positions]:

DO NOT EVER VOTE FOR THESE PARTIES – IF YOU SUPPORT MARRIAGE EQUALITY (5):

LIBERALS;
LABOR;
NATIONALS;
CHRISTIAN DEMOCRATES; and
SHOOTERS AND FISHERS

DO PLEASE VOTE FOR THESE PARTIES EVERYTIME – IF YOU SUPPORT MARRIAGE EQUALITY (5):

SECULAR PARTY;
SEX PARTY;
GREENS;
LIBERAL DEMOCRATES; and
THE DEMOCRATES

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By: David /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-400705 Thu, 07 May 2015 03:19:54 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-400705 In reply to Mark.

Add: “Tony Abbott, Fred Nile and Cory Bernardi” to the list of individual terrorists. Under the Terrorism Act 2005.

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By: Mark /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-399412 Wed, 06 May 2015 04:12:32 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-399412 Both the Labor party and the Liberal party are full of homophobic bigoted pricks and cunts!

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By: Ian Parker /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-399304 Wed, 06 May 2015 02:40:58 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-399304 In reply to Ian Parker.

Wow, you have a lot going on in that head of yours
And it is Labor not Labour

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By: Cec Caradine /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-399303 Wed, 06 May 2015 02:36:14 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-399303 In reply to Ian Parker.

Ian, my “attitude” is that too many people are giving a the homophobic Labour Party a free ride. It’s like “my husband only hits me on Tuesdays and Thursdays so he’s better than the husband across the road who hits his wife everyday”.

The Labour Party has homopbobes lurking in there. The Labour Party also has people who will Protect those homophobes by giving them a “conscience” vote in this issue when they don’t get a conscience vote on ANY OTHER ISSUE. That’s homophobia. And it goes to the core of what they stand for.

Currently they stand for “we want the inner city seats back from the greens, but not at the expense of bogan western Sydney seats and we are prepared to break our own rules to get what we want”.

If they allowed conscience votes on all issues then no problem. But they only have it on this one.

Labour Party MPs are prepared to cross the floor to defy their party if they are forced to vote in favour. That’s how large their homophobia is.

And there are others trying to protect them to be able to continue with their homophobia.

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By: Mark /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398797 Tue, 05 May 2015 10:21:45 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398797 In reply to Paul of Forbes NSW.

Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees’ Association is a terrorist organisation under a law I just passed!

Add: “Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees’ Association” to list of terrorism organisations.

Under the Terrorism Act 2005.

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By: Paul of Forbes NSW /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398791 Tue, 05 May 2015 10:12:39 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398791 The Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees’ Association are currupt to the core see this story now!

On courier mail website and with headline called “royal commission into trade union governance and corruption told shop distributive and allied employees association had fund to fight election challenges.”

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By: Ian Parker /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398709 Tue, 05 May 2015 07:53:19 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398709 In reply to Ian Parker.

Cec, I don’t understand your attitude
I think the Labor party should make their current pro marriage equality position as part of their platform and not subject to a conscience vote
The conscience vote is about the individuals MP’s feelings rather than what their electorate or party want, by removing that the the politician needs to explain exactly why they are against marriage equality without bringing their personal feelings into the debate

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By: Simon /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398687 Tue, 05 May 2015 07:40:21 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398687 In reply to David.

Omit – “when he’ll freezes over”.
Substitute: “effective from January 1, 2100”.

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By: David /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398686 Tue, 05 May 2015 07:37:39 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398686 Australia will have marriage equality – when hell freezes over!

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By: Cec Caradine /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398665 Tue, 05 May 2015 07:02:23 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398665 In reply to Ian Parker.

So let them be “disciplined” instead of applauded for being homophobes.

It’s as bad as being a homopbobe when you stand by and let them do as they please.

Just proves that ALP is just after inner city gay votes and they’re not really interested in equality for all.

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By: Alastair Lawrie /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398631 Tue, 05 May 2015 06:07:38 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398631 Mr Von Drehnen is currently a chief of staff to a Shadow Parliamentary Secretary. Surely this is relevant information to allow readers to more accurately judge what he has written – and therefore I believe should have been disclosed by the Star Observer (beyond simply describing him as “an active member of the ALP”).

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By: Terry Houguet-Pincham /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398630 Tue, 05 May 2015 05:23:20 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398630 Yes

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By: Barrie /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398429 Tue, 05 May 2015 02:19:15 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398429 In reply to Simon.

So true Simon. If equality is the core issue then there are other options to expolre. The “we-want-what-they’ve-got” approach isn’t working. Probably because it’s more like tokenism than equality.

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By: Darren Tyrrell /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398473 Tue, 05 May 2015 02:10:51 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398473 Written by an active member of the ALP- Who is compromising human rights over loyalty to the party- Thanks for selling me down the river you mug

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By: Dinesh Mathew /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398420 Tue, 05 May 2015 01:40:47 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398420 Not a matter of life and death. Which is what the conscience vote is for.

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By: Ian Parker /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398372 Tue, 05 May 2015 01:03:35 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398372 In reply to Ian Parker.

No it does not mean they will be expelled, they may receive disciplinary action which does not mean expulsion

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By: Cec Caradine /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398371 Tue, 05 May 2015 00:59:05 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398371 In reply to Ian Parker.

No Ian. If a ALP MP crosses the floor on any other issue they get EXPELLED. Why a issue this issue be any different? (Because they are filled with homophobes and those who protect them – abit like the cathlic church is with pedos).

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By: Cec Caradine /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398370 Tue, 05 May 2015 00:56:41 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398370 “Doesn’t believe his party should be bound to vote for marriage equality” aka “doesn’t want his party outed as having too many vicious and powerful homophobes in his party”.

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By: paul /opinion/labor-shouldnt-adopt-a-binding-vote-in-favour-of-gay-marriage/135860#comment-398346 Tue, 05 May 2015 00:22:43 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=135860#comment-398346 Well well well, the Star finds itself a pawn in the ALP’s internal power game over gay marriage, finally thrown open by Tania Plibersek’s call for the party to actively support it with a compulsory vote.
We all know that the ALP still habrours Catholic neanderthals like Joe de Bruyn who heads the powerful Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees’ Association, and always uses his clout to shut down gay marriage and equality initiatives.
But please, if you are going to give opinion space to people like Jeffrey Von Drehnen, be sure you don’t let him describe him just as an active ALP member: he’s the media adviser to conservative catholic Senator David Feeney who got his place on the ticket because of support from guess who: Joe de Bruyn.
I too am an active member of the ALP, and frankly, Jeffrey, you’d be better off keeping your nose right out of this important issue and getting on with fighting the Abbott government, which is exactly what Tania’s initiative will do, in the nicest possible way.
Like Jonathon, I have no intention of getting married, I don’t believe in it as an institution, but this is not about marriage, it is about equality.
The job of the gay press is to support gay issues, and your piece doesn’t deserve the space it’s been given.

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