Comments on: Finding the balance between marriage equality and religious freedom /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588 Setting Australia’s LGBTI agenda since 1979 Fri, 06 Mar 2015 23:30:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: mike /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-347126 Fri, 06 Mar 2015 23:30:29 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-347126 Tim offends my intelligence and credibility as a gay man

Straight white wealthy conservative men are using him to look after themselves

There are further calls to restructure the H.R.C by his alumni at the I.P.A

If it doesn’t reek conflicts of interest by writing articles in The Australian to support him taking over . I don’t know what does.

Absolute self-entitled WANKER of the highest order

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By: Paul /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346529 Fri, 06 Mar 2015 02:42:18 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346529 So in Australia, we LGBTI people can have Mardi Gras – but not marriage equality?!

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By: jane /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346430 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 23:24:33 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346430 In reply to Matthew Smith.

Mathew…

He keeps getting media as he’s vapid and a massive self promoting media whore..

It’s all status and no substance

We don’t take him seriously here in Melbourne it’s just his close clique of friends that support him anyway …

He has many skeletons in his closet and conflicts of interest via the I.P.A

That should be investigated and it’s not because of our lazy media that accept his polished facade

I’m really embarrassed that he’s a Melburnian as he’s not indicative of any gay man I know at all from the right…

Maybe we should boycott Tim in a more public manner?

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By: Ian Painter /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346286 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 18:36:38 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346286 The 10 commandments gives us homosexual rights theres a big hint for u all

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By: Ian Painter /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346285 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 18:34:13 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346285 The 10 commandments gives us homosexul rights theres ab4 hint for u all

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By: jane /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346166 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 14:53:05 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346166 In reply to Matthew Smith.

I know people who respect him

His mother and family

His partner Ryan Bolger

Disaffected young men and dubious wealthy men who want to screw you for money ie Ayn Rand ideology

And myself for having the guts to be so radica

That’s Freedom…and sadly his downfall by losing all credibility with the people on this thread

Alex Greenwich is his friend so that’s says a lot about that independent

Good luck feathering your own nest at the expense of children mate…

Pretty immoral in my viewpoint but if you can sleep at night with your conscience. ..

Melbourne is a Multicultural city and we don’t like laws that damages it’s economic status by making HATE legal

Cheers

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By: jrn /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346159 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 14:25:32 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346159 In reply to Matthew Smith.

Sadly Alan Jones became a corrupt shock jock

Is that thexway Tim wants to go as well??

Sad for a smart young man

Don’t know what his partner sees in him other than the status…

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By: helen /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346157 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 14:22:39 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346157 In reply to Matthew Smith.

I can’t wait to see the outcome when Mr Abbott is replaced and Tim reinvents himself again.

Freemarket systems fail and you learn a lot about the dark side of liberatarian views.

Diversity of opinion is o.k but Tims agenda is too radical for the masses

It’s self interest and economics ONLY

Thus the election loss in Victoria resulting in the right wing eating it’s own

He’s a smart operator and it’s fun seeing people challenge his ideas

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By: Matthew Smith /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346148 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 13:20:38 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346148 Why does the Star Observer keep printing this IPA/LNP guy? He’s achieved nothing as human rights commissioner, except prevent that role from going to someone else who might have given a crap about human rights. I don’t know a SINGLE person who respects him in any way. Just because he’s gay doesn’t mean he’s someone worth listening to. Or we’d all have to listen to Alan Jones too (and the scary thing is, over the years I can remember a few very rare times I agreed with Alan Jones, which is more than I can say for Wilson).
If Fred Nile payed $$$ to an ambitious gay guy to help sell his message, someone who’d do anything for money, would the Star Observer print their garbage too?

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By: ben /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346112 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 12:31:44 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346112 I would like to ask Tim if he’s ever been to a religious wedding and if he was discriminated there because of his status?

How would he feel then?

Tim has lived in two of the most gay friendly cities in the world that even protect him as a hard right wing gay man.

I only hope he doesn’t encounter any neo-nazi groups in Europe that are fascistic in nature just like his own perverted ideas

Go away please Tim!!

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By: Andrew Fiddian /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346131 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 12:09:46 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346131 I get that the paid professionals in religion i.e. Rabbis, Priests and Imans will be seeking exemption (religious freedom) but isn’t that whole notion objectionable from a human rights perspective? Are we to continue to believe that religious institutions are still entitled to go against human rights? Does this not go against basic principles of their religions?? But that aside; I think there needs to be a very clear distinction made between the (perceived) religious freedom of the professionals and the personal religious beliefs of individuals who may be caterers, florists and civil celebrants. A vastly different kettle of fish in my opinion, and as they are not professional religious people they should have no exemptions under any laws. They are in business. They are out to make a profit. They are there to provide their own professional services. And it is argued they should be allowed to be exempt from human rights laws? Since when? If we are to have equality, under the law, then we cannot allow these people to undermine our equality because of their personal religious beliefs. If they are granted religious freedom (exemption to discriminate) then where will it stop? Will grave-diggers refuse services because we are gay? Will doctors be allowed to refuse treatment to HIV people or those trans-gendering? At some point there has to be leadership shown, and we are not getting from the government. But our Human Rights Commissioner could certainly be having a huge influence without being so lost in political correctness. Why is he afraid that our Human Rights are going to impinge on the lives of civil celebrants, florists or cake decorators?

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By: Stan /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346067 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 11:18:12 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346067 Dear LGBT community….

Have a cry, for years you rejected me time and time again from your gay nightclubs because I didn’t fit the profile and was told quite bitchingly that I was obviously not homosexual and should therefore not try to keep coming.

You discriminated based on sexuality to keep your image and standard and now are having a sook because you can’t get a Marriage certificate.

I couldn’t think of anything more hypocritical and quite frankly insignificant.

In conclusion,

Cry me a River

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By: Damo /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346024 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 10:15:01 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346024 I find it difficult to believe that someone with such a strong religious affiliation would even consider becoming a civil marriage celebrant. A practising Catholic would not even consider a civil marriage legitimate in the eyes of the church anyway. It’s another case of the religious right (or wrong?) wanting to impose their beliefs upon the wider community who do not accept their views or recognise their self proclaimed authority. The current marriage act already ensures they can discriminate against any couple they do not deem worthy of marriage. Someone who has such strong religious convictions should become a minister in their church if they want to marry couples who share their beliefs, instead of trying to impose their religious convictions upon those who want a civil marriage. Many heterosexual couples are forced to have a civil ceremony because they are excluded from having a religious ceremony. Will prospective civil celebrants also be able to nominate whether they will be licensed not to marry divorcees, people of different faiths or impotent couples as well? Let’s keep civil marriages civil and open to all, and leave religious discrimination to the experts… the religious.

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By: Grant Sutherland /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-346017 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 09:42:28 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-346017 Really Tim Wilson, he’s so irrelevant. The proof the conservatives find acceptable, because he’d never admit to sucking cock

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By: Peter Smith /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-345985 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 08:32:47 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-345985 Is our gay godfather going to act in his Freedom Commissioner role at Mardi Gras this year?? Free YOUR mind Tim!! ;)

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By: poppy /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-345909 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 07:27:01 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-345909 when and why did Tim become such a bigoted gay man?

Does he have psychological issues?

I”m concerned that his arguments are considered sophisticated and clever when they’re very shallow and have a very selfish agenda.

It’s utter propaganda for the far_right wing in this country that want to Americanize our politics.

His ideas are not pragmatic but extremist and dangerous.

IGNORE AT ALL COST.

by the way i’m a progressive LIberal .

The party has kicked out all moderates and left us with this ultra right agenda

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By: harry /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-345901 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 07:08:57 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-345901 This man is being paid for hiS OPINION…

He is the most suitably unqualified man for this role sadly.

Will Tim answer the question everyone wants answered.

Did he get offered Gillian Triggs job when he left the i.p.a?

That’s more important than this ideological nastiness he espouses onto our lovely community.

DISCRIMINATION has no place in our civil society Tim.

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By: june /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-345890 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 06:59:44 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-345890 so i can blatantly discriminate against a gay- jew as well Tim?

For being homophobic and anti_Semitic as well.

Ridiculous argument.

Tim should disclose his partisan relationship with the newly elected Liberal Democrats Senator .

birds of a feather stick together with extreme and sadly racist views

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By: david /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-345881 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 06:52:51 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-345881 Why should the bigoted trader be treated differently to the bigoted homophobe?

Why does the former face legal sanction?

Why is saying what you think a right, when you can be effectively forced to do something that betrays your beliefs anyway?

Tim sadly thinks the market will sort this stuff out eventually..

snort….

Tim is playing his own little ideological game again with no real consequences for the real world

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By: jen /opinion/finding-the-balance-between-marriage-equality-and-religious-freedom/133588#comment-345778 Thu, 05 Mar 2015 04:48:22 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=133588#comment-345778 I get sick and tired of my community being used for tokenistic political gestures that do very little, if anything at all and then being lectured about a man chosen to appeal to the older conservative vote.

seriously Tim,, we don;t buy your argument

pleas

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