Hey, George, practice what you preach! Disbelievers should not be treated by religion as a tolerated and divisive minority whose rights must always yield to the imposing religious agenda, especially when belief in free choice and a fair go is overwhelmingly in the majority.

Australians for Separation of Church & State

I don’t think either of these religions are dying out.

Nowhere in the speech did Cardinal Pell admit that homosexuals had suffered persecution, in all its forms, as the direct result of the doctrines of the Catholic church, for the last 1700 years.

From Cardinal Pell’s speech;

“Clearly, there is an urgent need to deepen public understanding of the importance and nature of religious freedom”

I say that there is an urgent need to deepen public understanding of the effect that church doctrine (all denominations) has on the members of the church (all denominations)

Members of all denominations are taught that homosexuality is a disgusting and evil thing.

The effect of that doctrine is that members of all denominations regards homosexuals as disgusting and evil people.

The effect of church doctrine on church members is to cause church members to regard their homosexual children as disgusting and evil things.

The effect of church doctrine (all denominations) is to cause parents to hate their own homosexual children.

Cardinal Pell is an old man. He knows about the persecution of homosexuals in Australia by Christians because he has lived and worked with and amongst Christians all his life.

He denies his own knowledge of the persecution of homosexuals by Christians by not admitting that knowledge in his speech.

The reason that we need anti-discrimination laws is because some groups in our society indoctrinate their members with dogmas, which proscribe certain practices. The members of the group are taught that anyone who engages in those proscribed practices are disgusting and evil people.

The effect of those doctrines is to inspire the members of those groups to hate people who engage in those proscribed practices. The doctrines go so far as to cause parents to hate their own children if their children engage in the proscribed practices.

In his speech Cardinal Pell asserts that;

“Clearly, there is an urgent need to deepen public understanding of the importance and nature of religious freedom”

I assert that Cardinal Pell and people who think like him have an urgent need to deepen their personal understanding about the effects church doctrine has on church members and the people those church members persecute in the name of religion.

Oliver, what do you mean what purpose does George Pell serve. No-one takes any notice of Fred anymore so we need a new community hero. I agree with Shayne that he has done more to motivate our community than most of its leaders. Well done George.

But then what should society expect given the “paybacks” that have been occuring in the US when, for the second time in less than a decade, liberal Californians rejected gay marriage.