Comments on: Circumcision call ‘not for gay men’ /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077 Setting Australia’s LGBTI agenda since 1979 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:54:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Kent /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24142 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:54:23 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24142 I think this is key: “clearly an infant is unable to consent to a procedure”
Respect for the right of the individual I think is an important step in having a healthy society.

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By: David Skidmore /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24117 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 05:03:13 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24117 I’m amazed such a practice could be ever be considered a normal and routine procedure. I put it in the same category as cock-piercing – an exciting fetish for some but not something you inflict on babies.

As for the religious aspect, I find starvation for a month (aka Ramadan) and priesthood celibacy appalling as well. Not to mention religious-based homophobia. Hardly traditions that need to be carried on.

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By: Bayne MacGregor /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24115 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:03:49 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24115 Let each person decide when a legal adult what to do with their own genitals for whatever reason. Circumcision of infants along with non-essential surgery on Intersex Infants needs to be banned!

If the child when an adult wants to have it done for religious cosmetic cultural or std reasons or any other then thats their choice which should be supported. But till they are sexually active this std reason is balderdash so it’s not a reason to perform surgery which can still go badly wrong on tiny babies without consent and which they may as an adult regret had been done to them. And people leave religions they grow up in all the time whether changing faiths or going to atheism etc. So religious circumcision is still child abuse as the child may one-day leave that faith.

Let the children choose when adults! In all cases!

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By: Paul Mitchell /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24107 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:32:46 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24107 Oh yes as a gay activist I have said that “circumcision” or as I prefer to call it “undergoing forced fashion genital mutilation for religious purposes” on males is WRONG and should be outlawed because there is no rational or justifiable basis to continue the cruel practice.

Female genital mutilation is outlawed in nearly all countries now (and so it should continue to be) – now why are young male babies still to this day subject to this cruel and barbaric practice!!!!!

Now I fully acknowledge that it is religious, but a lot of this is purely based on “religious practice” – but have they considered that 1 in every 100 male babies that go and get circumcised die from the practice??????

Or is that because they are men and “real men” get circumcised – just like their fathers were?????

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By: robbie /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24100 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:51:56 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24100 I am very cautious about any article written Brian Morris. He is outspoken in his support for circumcision often drawing on research not relevant to the Australian context to support his claims. His findings are bias and do not consider the full body of research available. Currently there are no medical bodies in the world that recommend routine circumcision of baby boys. There is not enough evidence to support a return to routine circumcision for medical reasons. Not forgetting issues around respect and the rights of a child to body integrity.

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By: David Skidmore /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24098 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 06:22:12 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24098 I suspect this article will get quite a number of postings. Sex, drugs, pub openings and social events always do. In otherwords, pricks, pills, piss and parties.

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By: Chad Rivera /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24097 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 05:53:39 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24097 More myths to support male genital mutilation…. Australians don’t buy it.

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By: David Skidmore /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24091 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:16:09 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24091 Looking better is a matter of opinion. Reduction of sensitivity is inevitable with circumcision (although circumcised men won’t know that because they can’t compare).

I find ear piercings a good look. I wouldn’t force them on infants, though.

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By: A. /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24066 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:41:42 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24066 No prizes for guessing if Asquith is circumcised or not. If you don’t understand why people would be against circumcision- how would you feel if people suggested you needed your earlobes cut off- after all they’re not doing anything practical for you!

I’ve never turned away a cute cut guy but I personally think circumcised looks a lot better and I’ve seen quite a few men who were badly scarred by their circumcision.

Unless washing daily and changing your clothes is a challenge for you it’s not difficult to keep clean.

To put things in perspective the number of non-injecting heterosexuals with HIV in Australia is 0.2 percent.

So if we went back to where everyone did it we’d be circumcising 500 non-consenting infants for every heterosexual who forgets to wear a condom and catches HIV, and even then they’d still have to wear a condom to get full protection.

It would be far more ethical (and probably cheaper) to just educate heterosexuals more about HIV and other STIs which the Government does practically nothing on once they leave high school.

If anything we should be banning it from being done to kids – if people want to get circumcised when they’re adults, fine, but don’t foist a decision like that on a child that they then have to live with for the rest of their lives.

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By: Asquith /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24062 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:23:13 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24062 I agree with this article, with an uncircumcised penis, bugs can get under the foreskin etc

I don’t understand why people are against circumcision, it makes “it” look better, and it’s clean and way easier to manage!

I think people take the whole circumcision thing to heart becuase lets be frank, no man likes to be told that their wee wee comes second best to another mans wee wee.

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By: Joe /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24060 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:57:08 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24060 @David

Hear hear on the body parts!

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By: David Skidmore /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24059 Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:37:35 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24059 I suspect it may lull people into a false sense of security about HIV transmission. Better to look at what’s happening in countries where HIV transmission is dropping or hasn’t taken hold and adopt best practices from those countries.

I also find this form of genital mutilation repugnant and am amazed it is considered normal in some circles. Why not chop off other bits of the human body to avoid infections?

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By: Sam Barns /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24058 Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:51:36 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24058 Condoms prevent HIV infection, genital cutting does not. Male circumcision is a dangerous distraction in the fight against HIV.

If Wodak, Cooper, and Morris were promoting a condom with a 40% failure rate, they would be laughed out of the room.

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By: Paul /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24054 Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:34:34 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24054 Although I have no medical qualifications, if circumcision helps prevent HIV transmission in heterosexuals and not homosexuals, who would know the sexuality of a child anyway and whether it would be of benefit? Isn’t education about safe sex and access to condoms for all people who have sex the best practice?

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By: Erin /news/national-news/new-south-wales-news/circumcision-call-%e2%80%98not-for-gay-men%e2%80%99/31077#comment-24053 Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:26:40 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=31077#comment-24053 Safe sexual practices (condoms) reduce the spread of stds and aids not chopping off the foreskin on an unconsenting baby. Africa studies are known to be flawed and HIV rates in many African countries are in fact rising in spite of circumcision. Educate people on safe sex and leave babies (who are not sexually active mind you) alone

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