Comments on: Australia’s LGBTI community will soon face the most difficult choice we’ve had to make /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472 Setting Australia’s LGBTI agenda since 1979 Mon, 06 Nov 2017 07:06:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: john /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472#comment-599541 Mon, 06 Nov 2017 07:06:03 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=163472#comment-599541 ‘Religious freedoms’ of speech need to be curtailed!

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By: NickDavisGB /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472#comment-599498 Sat, 04 Nov 2017 11:58:00 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=163472#comment-599498 #MakeChurchesPayTax

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By: Barry Moroney /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472#comment-599489 Sat, 04 Nov 2017 01:17:47 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=163472#comment-599489 It must be always remembered. If you provide me with good service, I will more than likely return and also recommend your business if prompted. Provide great service all of the above enthusiastically.. Provide shit service I will tell everyone who will listen.
Your choice

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By: horrie /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472#comment-599474 Fri, 03 Nov 2017 09:12:04 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=163472#comment-599474 my partner and I have been in a relationship for 33 years.we shifted to the country 17 years ago.the town accepted us no problems,since all this plebiscite and media mongering has started,well completely a different story.we we will be so happy to see the the end of it all,then to find out about our true friends and how will this town react after it’s all finished.hasn’t the government got more important things to do,like run the country.

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By: Patrick Elliott-Brennan /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472#comment-599473 Fri, 03 Nov 2017 08:57:39 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=163472#comment-599473 As an occasional reader of the SSO I thought I may comment from an outsider and supporter perspective.

While this doesn’t directly affect me or my immediate family, the issue does affect my friends and it affects my children’s view of the world they live in and affects how I see the community at large. Are we going to continue allowing bigoted laws and values to prevent equity?

If religious groups say things like they wish to refuse to symbolically marry people (which is what religious weddings are) then shrug. That’s an argument that can be taken up later. It doesn’t prevent people getting married and having the exact same rights (personally I’d ban all discrimination by religious groups in general).

If the suggestion is that businesses trading in the public sphere can discriminate then I think it’s ‘all hands to battle stations’.

I don’t ‘do’ religion but I think that having rights in the real world is more important and the right to equity in the real world is not negotiable.

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By: Jane /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472#comment-599468 Fri, 03 Nov 2017 07:32:01 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=163472#comment-599468 “But (AU) politicians across the political spectrum continue to pay lip service to this false freedom narrative because they are too afraid or ignorant to call it out as yet another nasty, imported American culture war.”

THIS^^^^^^

Hard to not feel utterly embarrassed & ashamed to say I’m an Aussie with these backwards, blow-hard wankers so busy arse-kissing those Neanderthals “in-charge” (of the USA) asylum.

Malcolm & Tony & that Smith idiot need to ALL move there.

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By: Michael /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472#comment-599465 Fri, 03 Nov 2017 07:07:31 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=163472#comment-599465 I think that the Liberal and National party had better not forget that thousands of LBGTI people have a vote at the next election and the LNP could find themselves on the other side of the house and not in government (they are nearly there at the moment) because I won’t be voting for them (I never have)

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By: Earth.W /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472#comment-599461 Fri, 03 Nov 2017 04:21:58 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=163472#comment-599461 Australian politicians fall into two categories. One are the haters. The second are those who are gutless people who should go back home and curl up in their bed.

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By: Derek Williams /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472#comment-599456 Fri, 03 Nov 2017 01:03:01 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=163472#comment-599456 In New Zealand where I was born, several attempts were made to decriminalise same-sex relationships prior to the 1986 Homosexual Law Reform Act brought by Labour whip Fran Wilde. This had the full support of LGBT lobbyists because it had an equal age of consent with heterosexuals and there was no Sword of Damocles threatening amendments.

Earlier attempts with an unequal age of consent and negating riders were at one point sabotaged by LGBT lobbyists who circulated a fake white paper to all members of parliament misrepresenting the bill’s aims, to ensure it would fail. The bill was duly withdrawn until the political climate matured. Three decades later, and I can now marry the same man I could have gone to jail for loving in 1985.

Senator Dean Smith’s private member’s bill, that the government will most likely allow to go ahead following a Yes majority, could pass loaded up with amendments. If this threat materialises, then I think LGBT lobbyists must withdraw support and pressure Senator Smith to shelve his bill and wait for a propitious change of government.

Even if law reform is not achieved, at least a Yes vote will have clarified that that problem is not Australian animus against same-sex marriage, thereby paving the way for a future government to pass the bill unamended.

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By: Dave /news/national-news/australia-lgbti-community-difficult-choice-make/163472#comment-599451 Thu, 02 Nov 2017 22:00:09 +0000 https://starobserver.com.au/?p=163472#comment-599451 Agreed. Great comments from Rodney, also a shout-out to Doug Pollard who made similar comments in response to an article on the Star Observer a few days ago.

Dean Smith’s bill was arguably a reasonable effort before this “statistical survey” was imposed on the Australian community despite it failing to pass Parliament. But now it’s going to be the people who have spoken because they have had this forced upon them and the conservatives in Parliament can go fuck themselves. They had their chance to do this much better and cheaper than they have, they blew it, they can only blame themselves for what happens next.

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